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This first entry originially appeared here on The Happy Recap a few weeks ago as a post, but i always thought it would work better as a blog. Thanks to Matthew Cerrone of Metsblog for linking to the original post!
WHERE HOME RUNS DIES?: THE CITIFIELD MYTH
So with one season down, is Citifield a pitchers park or a hitter's park? The stats are obviously inconclusive, since its only one season, and let's be honest, the Mets sucked this year, but i was looking at the Park Factor stats for 2009 and found that there wasnt much difference between the essentially neutral Shea Stadium and Citifield.
For the purpose of this illustration, i am going to show 2004 (the last year the Mets were below .500, 2006 the last year the Mets were in the playoffs, 2008 the lasy year of Shea, and 2009 in Citifield
The way park factors work is taking the stats at home vs the road (factoring in visiting ballcubs). A rate higher than 1.000 favors the hitter. Below 1.000 favors the pitcher. Teams with home games in multiple stadiums list aggregate Park Factors.
(Stat Source: http://espn.go.com/m...ats/parkfactor)
YEAR.........STADIUM...............................RUNS.....HR.....HITS......2B.....3B....BB
2004 Shea Stadium (Flushing, New York) 0.974 0.804 1.033 0.976 0.467 0.978
2006 Shea Stadium (Flushing, New York) 0.606 0.575 0.660 0.714 0.485 0.691
2008 Shea Stadium (Flushing, New York) 0.946 1.081 0.926 0.935 0.500 1.088
2009 Citi Field....(New York, NY)..............0.943 1.057 0.955 0.955 1.200 0.942
the interesting thing is, with a much weaker team in 2009, the stats between Shea in 08 and Citi in 09 are remarkably similar in ever category except 3B which in case you are wondering, Citi ranks 7th among parks in Triples for 2009. It runs 12th for HR.
The amazing thing to me is, 2006, when the Mets came within an inning of the World Series, the Park Factor on Shea was SO pitcher heavy, that literally Shea was dead last in every category except 3B (which oddly enough was held by the previous Yankee Stadium. In other words, Shea in 2006 was the premier pitchers park in baseball, though most years it hovered around the middle of the pack...what we would consider "pitcher friendly leaning average"
Now i know someone will inevitably ask...so here is a comparison for the "other" team in town...since their new park has the Homer friendly reputation.....is it founded? we'll look at the same years, and then compare Citi and Yankee Stadium side by side.
YEAR.........STADIUM...............................RUNS.....HR.....HITS......2B.....3B....BB
2004 Yankee Stadium (Bronx, New York) 0.694 0.776 0.791 0.785 0.397 0.791
2006 Yankee Stadium (Bronx, New York) 0.877 1.023 0.958 1.007 0.375 0.938
2008 Yankee Stadium (Bronx, New York) 1.040 0.982 0.980 0.997 1.045 1.000
2009 Yankee Stadium (Bronx, New York) 0.965 1.261 0.995 0.810 0.500 1.104
Now obviously the HR count defintely shows new Yankee Stadium to be more HR friendly than it's predecessor, but statistically speaking thats the only notable difference....in 4 of the 6 categories, the stadium actually favors pitchers. And yes, Yankee Stadium has the highest ranked PF for HR's...Angels Stadium is 2nd, Rangers 3rd, US Cellular 4th and Oriole Park 5th (for those wondering Citizen's Bank is 16th, 4 below CITIFIELD at 12th...yes folks, thats right, statistically speaking in 2009 Citifield was more HR friendly than CBP. Worth noting too, about New Yankee stadium, is that they added Tex this year and he led all Yankees with 24 HR at Yankee Stadium this year, by 7 HR (24 HR at home, next highest is A-Rd with 18, and Damon with 17), and that could skew the stats a little as well....
so how do Citi and new Yankee match up side by side?
YEAR.........STADIUM...............................RUNS.....HR.....HITS......2B.....3B....BB
2009 Citi Field (New York, NY)................. 0.943 1.057 0.955 0.955 1.200 0.942
2009 Yankee Stadium (New York, NY) .... 0.965 1.261 0.995 0.810 0.500 1.104
While the numbers aren't all that similar, both stadiums favor pitchers in 4 out of the 6 categories. That being said, while Yankee Stadium clearly favors hitters in 2009 the home lineup certainly featured better all around offense in 2009, leaving one to wonder, would or could the Mets have done any better with Yankee Stadium as their home in 2009? And would the Yankees have done worse at Citifield? I am thinking the answer to that is a fairly surprising no.
What i do think that time will show is that the difference is the early season...much like Shea was, in April and May HR's will die in the outfield, while the humid summer months will feature far more HRs and offense. Yankee Stadium, i expect to be somewhat opposite....i wouldnt be surprised if it remains a HR haven in the early season and becomes more average in summer months. That seemed to be the pattern this year, and i wouldnt be surprised to see that happen this year.....
One last thing worth noting, Here are the 2009 raw numbers for HR for Mets and Yankees and their opponents
TEAM.......HOME/AWAY......HR ALLOWED........HR HIT......DIFFERENCE
Mets..................Home..................81.................49.................-32
Mets..................Away..................77.................46.................-31
Yankees............Home.................101...............136................+35
Yankees............Away..................80...............108................+28
Obviously that shows how bad our own HR hitting was, but it also shows the fact that simply put, Citifeld, with the right hitters, and with them healthy, is not a place where HR's die. It's no homer haven, for sure....but the right guys can definitely get the job done. That being said, i think the Mets will always be best off matching the strengths of Citifeld, lots of spray hitters, good gap hitters, decent speed, and a few power types....
The point overall, is this: As reporters, agents, other teams all make claims about the inability to hit for power at Citifield, know that there is not only no conclusive proof that it is even true, but the evidence we have so far suggests that it's not.
WHERE HOME RUNS DIES?: THE CITIFIELD MYTH
So with one season down, is Citifield a pitchers park or a hitter's park? The stats are obviously inconclusive, since its only one season, and let's be honest, the Mets sucked this year, but i was looking at the Park Factor stats for 2009 and found that there wasnt much difference between the essentially neutral Shea Stadium and Citifield.
For the purpose of this illustration, i am going to show 2004 (the last year the Mets were below .500, 2006 the last year the Mets were in the playoffs, 2008 the lasy year of Shea, and 2009 in Citifield
The way park factors work is taking the stats at home vs the road (factoring in visiting ballcubs). A rate higher than 1.000 favors the hitter. Below 1.000 favors the pitcher. Teams with home games in multiple stadiums list aggregate Park Factors.
(Stat Source: http://espn.go.com/m...ats/parkfactor)
YEAR.........STADIUM...............................RUNS.....HR.....HITS......2B.....3B....BB
2004 Shea Stadium (Flushing, New York) 0.974 0.804 1.033 0.976 0.467 0.978
2006 Shea Stadium (Flushing, New York) 0.606 0.575 0.660 0.714 0.485 0.691
2008 Shea Stadium (Flushing, New York) 0.946 1.081 0.926 0.935 0.500 1.088
2009 Citi Field....(New York, NY)..............0.943 1.057 0.955 0.955 1.200 0.942
the interesting thing is, with a much weaker team in 2009, the stats between Shea in 08 and Citi in 09 are remarkably similar in ever category except 3B which in case you are wondering, Citi ranks 7th among parks in Triples for 2009. It runs 12th for HR.
The amazing thing to me is, 2006, when the Mets came within an inning of the World Series, the Park Factor on Shea was SO pitcher heavy, that literally Shea was dead last in every category except 3B (which oddly enough was held by the previous Yankee Stadium. In other words, Shea in 2006 was the premier pitchers park in baseball, though most years it hovered around the middle of the pack...what we would consider "pitcher friendly leaning average"
Now i know someone will inevitably ask...so here is a comparison for the "other" team in town...since their new park has the Homer friendly reputation.....is it founded? we'll look at the same years, and then compare Citi and Yankee Stadium side by side.
YEAR.........STADIUM...............................RUNS.....HR.....HITS......2B.....3B....BB
2004 Yankee Stadium (Bronx, New York) 0.694 0.776 0.791 0.785 0.397 0.791
2006 Yankee Stadium (Bronx, New York) 0.877 1.023 0.958 1.007 0.375 0.938
2008 Yankee Stadium (Bronx, New York) 1.040 0.982 0.980 0.997 1.045 1.000
2009 Yankee Stadium (Bronx, New York) 0.965 1.261 0.995 0.810 0.500 1.104
Now obviously the HR count defintely shows new Yankee Stadium to be more HR friendly than it's predecessor, but statistically speaking thats the only notable difference....in 4 of the 6 categories, the stadium actually favors pitchers. And yes, Yankee Stadium has the highest ranked PF for HR's...Angels Stadium is 2nd, Rangers 3rd, US Cellular 4th and Oriole Park 5th (for those wondering Citizen's Bank is 16th, 4 below CITIFIELD at 12th...yes folks, thats right, statistically speaking in 2009 Citifield was more HR friendly than CBP. Worth noting too, about New Yankee stadium, is that they added Tex this year and he led all Yankees with 24 HR at Yankee Stadium this year, by 7 HR (24 HR at home, next highest is A-Rd with 18, and Damon with 17), and that could skew the stats a little as well....
so how do Citi and new Yankee match up side by side?
YEAR.........STADIUM...............................RUNS.....HR.....HITS......2B.....3B....BB
2009 Citi Field (New York, NY)................. 0.943 1.057 0.955 0.955 1.200 0.942
2009 Yankee Stadium (New York, NY) .... 0.965 1.261 0.995 0.810 0.500 1.104
While the numbers aren't all that similar, both stadiums favor pitchers in 4 out of the 6 categories. That being said, while Yankee Stadium clearly favors hitters in 2009 the home lineup certainly featured better all around offense in 2009, leaving one to wonder, would or could the Mets have done any better with Yankee Stadium as their home in 2009? And would the Yankees have done worse at Citifield? I am thinking the answer to that is a fairly surprising no.
What i do think that time will show is that the difference is the early season...much like Shea was, in April and May HR's will die in the outfield, while the humid summer months will feature far more HRs and offense. Yankee Stadium, i expect to be somewhat opposite....i wouldnt be surprised if it remains a HR haven in the early season and becomes more average in summer months. That seemed to be the pattern this year, and i wouldnt be surprised to see that happen this year.....
One last thing worth noting, Here are the 2009 raw numbers for HR for Mets and Yankees and their opponents
TEAM.......HOME/AWAY......HR ALLOWED........HR HIT......DIFFERENCE
Mets..................Home..................81.................49.................-32
Mets..................Away..................77.................46.................-31
Yankees............Home.................101...............136................+35
Yankees............Away..................80...............108................+28
Obviously that shows how bad our own HR hitting was, but it also shows the fact that simply put, Citifeld, with the right hitters, and with them healthy, is not a place where HR's die. It's no homer haven, for sure....but the right guys can definitely get the job done. That being said, i think the Mets will always be best off matching the strengths of Citifeld, lots of spray hitters, good gap hitters, decent speed, and a few power types....
The point overall, is this: As reporters, agents, other teams all make claims about the inability to hit for power at Citifield, know that there is not only no conclusive proof that it is even true, but the evidence we have so far suggests that it's not.
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